Military jet crashes in San Diego-Pilot Ejected Safely
A military jet crashes in San Diego, California, into a residential neighborhood, on Monday December 8Th, as it tried to land at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. The pilot ejected safely before the jet, an F/A-18, went down two miles from the airfield about 11:55 a.m. PT.
There are no immediate information yet about the homes involved and if there was anyone in them at then time of the accident. It appears two homes were severely damaged. The accident happend only 3 blocks away from a High School. That area is safe but the school was in lock down until there was an all clear. Information about injuries wasn’t immediately available.
The smoke from the jet gas was giving off deadly gasses or chemicals and no one is allowed in the area right now.
The pilot was found and was transported to a local hospital in “mild status.”
According to the FAA, “The pilot was in communication with military air traffic controllers before the jet crashed.”
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~The Baby Boomer Queen~
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I feel sorry for this youg man, but cannot believe he chose to eject to safety while his plan was going into a residential area.
Did pilot ever tried to turn off the homes? Three people passed away. Hope, pilot did everything as he can to avoid living area. There is co-incidence, pilot Koparev from Russia Air Force died trying avoid the fault to living area http://www.lenta.ru/news/2008/12/05/pilot/
This is a horrible tragedy made worse because it was totally preventable. The pilot could have simply ditched in the ocean instead of risking people’s lives by trying to get to the airport when he didn’t have a chance to make it. He should be courtmarshalled and sentenced to death for murdering 3 (maybe 4) innocent civilians. The fact that he chose to save his own life at the cost of others is utterly inexcusable.
This is yet another example of how military culture has degenerated from honor and service to cowardice and thuggery. A pilot from an earlier generation would have sacrificed his own life to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Military people choose to throw their lives away… innocent civilians on the ground did not.
Our troops do NOT deserve our support. This horrifying tragedy is yet another example why.
Karen…….You are a stupid ass!!!!! It was a mishap, not sure where you got your information from but its wrong, the pilots(military pilots, private or commercial pilots) are trained to do everthing they can to avoid something like this and he most likely did. I would be interested to hear how you would have responded it his situation…..and for you to put down the very troops that are dying everyday for your freedom and defending the very ground you walk on is wrong. GO To HELL
karen, ask anyone its not that easy. pilots always try to crash in a safe place. nothing in this world is perfect.
Wow Karen, just wow….
The pilot could have simply ditched into the ocean huh. From what has been released at the moment it would seem that he was feet dry with one engine, more then enough engine to land at Miramar. Any ideas how many planes finish their flights (private, comercial, or military) with fewer engines then they started with? If we ditched flights all the time for losing a single engine planes would be going down left and right.
So, seeing as it would seem that his remaining engine went out over land what would you have had him do? Ride the bird to the ground taking out him, his plane, and the homes?
Karen, you really need to get out of the soccer van and into the game here. Perhaps you should spend sometime with Aviators of all walks of life to really have a clue about this situation.
Semper Fi
I live in La Jolla near the ocean and about 10 mins from that site and I heard that plane. I thought it was really loud and unusual to hear a fighter jet so loud over my area. I even thought when I heard it was what is it doing over here. Obviously if the fighter could avoid a home don’t you think he would have. It is always a risk and my heart goes out to the families because it could have slammed into my home as well. Even if it was a commercial, commuter or fighter plane it was an accident. Could it have been prevented, who knows as I’m sure the pilot did everything possible to get it under control. Going into the ocean, yeah thats a good idea too but I wasn’t in the cockpit so I can’t judge. Living in SD we see those jets almost everyday flying around in circles doing their excercises near Miramar.
I agree with Joe. What a b—–! To bad the plane didn’t crash into your house Karen! We’d have one less assh— on this planet! Karen, why don’t you go live in a third world country where freedom is only a dream! Where they have no military to fight for their rights. Where there is chaos and constant fear of dying or having your family murdered before your eyes. You are a huge idiot, Karen!
This incident was an accident. unfortunately, s— happens that we can do nothing about.
OUCHhhhhhhhhhhhhh Karen…
It looks like you have un-nested a ‘Swarm of Hornets…’
Being on the East Coat of course we do not have the information the West Coast does.
I do know two things about the troops or pilots…
One they are taught to fly and keep their planes in the air with out harming the plane and civilians and them selves (not necessary in that order)
And two that NO pilot would endanger the public…if there was any way out…he would have found it.
I do think that this brave man did everything that could have been done, to prevented this accident.
He ejected at the last second…in fact he ejected after the last second. It was a miracle that he survived. The force that the pilots are pushed out from the plane is horrific and he should have given his self more safety space but he didn’t he carried it past the safety rules of ejection.
There was no need for him to parish. It was the plane that defaulted not him.
Karen, I HATE war. but I do support our troops.
There could have been more carnage then there was. San Diego had Lady Luck on her side that day. It was 3 blocks away from a school house…
As all service people realize sometimes there are regrettable loses that they have to live with. I hope this man has the courage to do so.
Sincerely,
~The Baby Boomer Queen~
Hi BBQueen,
Yes, you’re right, they do sound a little swarmy, don’t they?
Sadly, temper tantrums and name-calling only makes them look like fools. Say something worthy of respect and you’ll earn it, even if we don’t agree.
As for your thoughts, I’m afraid I think you’re being very generous to them (the military). In this particular case, it looks like the pilot exercised extremely poor judgement and the civilian fatalities were unnecessary. It seems very clear that he did NOT “do everything he could have, to avoid killing people on the ground”. It appears that he clearly had other options and he failed to handle the situation properly.
Engine failure is one of the most basic and common emergencies that pilots are trained to deal with. Even private pilots flying Cessna’s. It sounds like this jet was limping along at low altitude before finally stalling. One very basic principle is that it is the pilot’s responsibility to maintain a safe speed and altitude in order to make a controlled landing at all times. Losing one or even both engines is no excuse. You ALWAYS maintain control of your aircraft, even if it means a hard landing… even if it means impact. Just the ejection itself might have been enough to make the plane’s flight path unstable. There’s no excuse for what he did.
Yes, he should have rode the bird into the ground if necessary. That was his responsibility as pilot. Taking out him, yes. His plane, yes. The homes, no. Sure it is possible that this was some extremely bizarre failure, hydraulics, flight computer, etc. That does not appear to be the case, even from the very preliminary reports thus far. He contacted the tower knowing he had an emergency. In an emergency, ground controllers give advice…. the pilot is in COMMAND.
The simple fact is, he lost control when he shouldn’t have. People died. Like I said, military people make the choice to throw away their lives… people on the ground did not. Sad to have a pilot die, but that’s part of the deal. Better 1000 troops die than even one innocent civilian. Here we have two children. I’d sooner see the entire US Military die horrible deaths if it could only bring back these two innocent faces. Unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. They’d rather make excuses and shout angry names before they show even the slightest remorse for the victims they murder every day, including these latest, and saddest ones of all.
Part of serving with honor is taking personal responsibility for your actions. These military guys are just making excuses for the pilot. Very sad. If they have nothing better to say than to call me names, well, that just proves my point that the military does not deserve our respect, let alone support. Our current military is a disgrace to America. A true honorable soldier would resign in disgust at what the military has become.
You really are a stupid B*tch!!!
GO NAVY !!!
Sounds like you have something against the military…….. I’m willing to bet a million dollars you were kicked out of the military for being a dummy !!!!
Karen,
Please tell me what you know about the US Military and the men and women that serve in it, beyond what you read in the news and hear about in your little social group? Have you served? Do you have family that served? How about this, do you know anyone that was murdered in the 9/11 terrorist attacks (or do you think the US government conspired to do those attacks themselves?).
I spent 4 years with the US Marine Corps and I am proud of every moment I served. My service gave me the ambition to further serve my country and community in a different manner. Now I serve by saving lives as a firefighter and paramedic. Though, what a waste I must be. I suppose I should walk out into on coming traffic because I am a Marine.
Funny thing about the military too, I also work part-time in our local level 3 trauma center and medical college. I would say about 70% of our Faculty physicians have or still do serve in the US military as docs, and many of them recieved their training from the military. To think about how many lives they have saved through the training the military gave them. But I suppose they wanted to throw their lives away many years ago.
But enough of me name calling, or at the minimum calling a pot black.
Please tell me Karen what you would have our government do about the US Military. Shall we execute everyone that is currently serving, as they must have all some how helped commit a murder? Shall we say, no more military in the US, we are a passive nation now? Enlighten us with your wisdom in this matter so that we may all learn from our mistakes in life, seeing as you apparently have never made one. Have you donated a kidney, lung, part of your liver, blood, or anything? If not I am going to have to claim you are selfish, I mean you only need ONE kidney or lung to live, so the other is just redundant right now, and there are so many people that are in need of a functional kidney or lung. You could be saving a life at this very moment. Alas, I would imagine you would not donate such an item, or at least at the minimum think for several days prior to agreeing to it. Self preservation is such a strong instinct in animals of all kinds (humans included), and the seconds (if that) this young pilot had to make his decision as to eject or ride it to the ground, I am certain you would have made the decision to self sacrifice.
Finally, I have trouble, real trouble, understanding how it is logical for the pilot to have ditched his plane at the first sign of trouble. Again, by your logic, anytime there was a mechanical issue that could pose a safety risk, the pilot should crash his plane into an area where no one is located as opposed to trying to operate the plane with the secondary systems (safety systems designed to allow the plane to fly). THE FIRST SIGN OF TROUBLE is basically what you are proposing. Take a 747 aircraft for instance, it has four engines, but it CAN and has flown with only one engine.
Here are the FACTS as we are aware from the military and news sources at the moment.
The pilot lost an engine at some point prior to getting to land (it would seem). This left him with a single operating engine, which is WELL within the ability for this plane to fly with (again, redundancy). The pilot decides to follow his training, and that of pretty much everyother aviator in the world (commercial, private, military) and to return to base ASAP. So, while he is 3 miles away from landing his last engine goes out (this is not something that happens often, in fact I would suspect that one has a higher chance of being killed by a dog then this happening to them). The pilot then makes the decision to eject from his aircraft vs. riding it into homes. The fact is that NOTHING, after that last engine went out, would have prevented that plane from crashing (very likely into the same area). You do understand that the plane was gliding at that point, like a paper airplane, and that modern planes are NOT designed to glide well. It is mere force that keeps planes in the air, and this force comes from the engines.
So, in recap, per YOU Karen, ANYTIME a plane has ANY mechanical problems the pilot should crash it into the nearest deserted location. They should make NO attempt to land the plane safetly following protocols put in place by the FAA for such emergencies.
Would you fly in a plane with those protocols Karen? Just what is the limit to survival? If it is a commercial airline with 100 people on it and it is between those 100 people and 5 infants which should live and which should die? But seeing as you are the pentultimate source of judging these matters I feel you would have no issues making that choice. In fact, please, I could use the help as I have dealt with mutlple mass casualty incidents, and have had the job to determine who gets treated and who does not. I have always struggled with that, and especially making the choice to let a child die and save an adult. This is not out of anything other then in my mind the person I decide will not get treatment immediatly is least likely to survive. But I have to sleep with that every night, what do you think about when you fall asleep?